Shambolic Living

  • Home
  • Publications/Media
  • Contact Me
  • About

So What Do I Tell My Daughter About Drinking and Rape?

October 22, 2013 By Janine 11 Comments

Disclaimer: This article deals with rape and sexual assault and may be triggering for survivors of abuse.

There is a huge online debate taking place at the moment in response to an article by Mia Freedman This Isn’t Victim Blaming. This is Common Sense where she argues  we need to tell our daughters getting drunk could increase their risk of being sexually assaulted.

There have been a number of responses to the piece where the writers make it clear that nothing a woman does is to blame for her being raped.  Smoking causes cancer. Alcohol doesn’t cause rape by Kerrie Sackville and Today in ‘What Mia Freedman has done now’ by News with Nipples both take the position that Freedman’s article was victim blaming and sending a dangerous message that if you just keep yourself sober you won’t get raped. While To the unconvinced: The perpetrators of crime are responsible for crime  by Andie Fox  and No Means No by Bianca Wordley don’t specifically cite the Freedman article but issue a strong message that rapists are responsible for rape not the victims.

Let’s be perfectly clear here, rapists rape because they are dysfunctional individuals who engage in predatory behaviour and see an opportunity to fulfill a need for power and domination and take it. Rape victims are never responsible for being raped.

Rapists are not usually scary looking strangers in dark alleys, they are often friendly workmates or relatives or neighbours or school friends (in 70% of sexual assaults the offender is a family member, friend, work or school colleague. Of the remaining 30% the offender is usually someone the victim meets socially or dates*).

Statistics show that one in five in women in Australia will experience sexual assault at some time in their life* and women aged 15 to 24 years are most at risk*.

So as the mother of a 16-year-old and a 13-year-old forgive me for being a bit concerned.

As a parent what is my responsibility here? If I tell my daughters that getting blind rotten drunk leaves you incapable of defending yourself or making reasoned judgements am I sending the message that girls who get drunk are asking for it? If I sign them up for a self-defence course am I telling them the world is a dangerous place and your friends who don’t learn to eye-gouge are obviously leaving themselves wide open to attack? If I suggest that wearing a skirt which shows your undies and a top which your boobs fall out of  is unattractive am I telling them that girls who dress provocatively deserve to be raped?

I’m not parenting a two-year old anymore where I’m teaching them to “not touch” the hot stove, I’m not parenting a five-year old anymore where I’m teaching them about “good touching and bad touching”, I’m not parenting a ten-year old anymore where I’m teaching them about “stranger danger”. I’m parenting young adults, who I don’t supervise every minute of the day.

We are in a whole new world here. The idea of teenagers dying in car accidents is no longer a far-off, think about it later situation – it’s friends on P-plates – it’s her getting behind the wheel herself – it’s conversations about NEVER getting into the car with somebody who has been drinking and if you’ve had a drink yourself DON’T DRIVE – no matter what time it is CALL ME and I will come and get you.

Drugs are no longer worrying about if you can give another dose of Panadol before the four hours is up – it’s parties and serious stuff on offer and conversations about addiction to be had.

Sex is no longer picture books of What’s Happening To Me? – it’s boys in bedrooms and boy/girl sleepovers – navigated through conversations about safety, pregnancy and making good choices.

So why, when I’m sending her out into a world where one in five women will experience sexual assault is it wrong to outline the risk factors? Why is it wrong to say to my daughter that putting yourself in a position where you are unable to take care of yourself is making yourself vulnerable? Why is this not like the million and one other “safety” conversations I’ve been having with her since she was a two-year-old trying to touch a hot oven?

I hope that if she is drunk out of her mind she is surrounded by kind, caring friends who will get her home safely. I know the majority of men she meets will be decent blokes who would never consider harming a woman in any way.

As a mother I know I’ve raised daughters who understand that rape occurs because rapists do evil things not because a girl had a Bacardi Breezer too many or wore a sexy top. I know they know that because of the hundreds of conversations we’ve had over the years, because of the episodes of Home and Away we have watched and discussed, because of the things they have overheard their father and I talk about.

But as a mother it’s my job to make sure my daughters are capable of doing all that is humanly possible to avoid being in dangerous situations. I’m crossing my fingers and hoping that somewhere in those years of helicopter parenting I have managed to instil resilience and self-awareness. That I’ve raised individuals  capable of assessing a situation or a person and, if either make them uncomfortable, with the confidence and ability to GET THE HELL OUT. Sadly, as a woman I know that sometimes, despite all the precautions in the world, that won’t be possible

 

* NSW Rape Crisis Centre

Filed Under: Women

« Favourite Spaces
Obviously I’m A Genius »

Comments

  1. John James says

    October 22, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    I think all teenagers, regardless of gender, need to be taught that binge drinking can not only lead to health problems in the long term, but can also contribute to both violent behaviour and risk taking…

    This shouldn’t be a single issue or single gender warning – both men and women can exhibit violent behaviour when drunk – both men and women can exhibit risk taking behaviours, such as drinking and driving, or unprotected sex, under the influence of alcohol…

    To limit the discussion to sexual assault, especially when the discussion is gender specific – is the problem with using alcohol as a victim blaming exercise.

    Reply
    • Janine says

      October 22, 2013 at 6:20 pm

      Absolutely agree that alcohol is problematic for both boys and girls – limited my discussion to girls because that’s who I’m parenting I don’t have any sons. I also think there are warnings that need to be given to boys regarding sex and alcohol – they are vulnerable too.

      Reply
  2. cobbies69 says

    October 22, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    The truth and your support with a few fact and figures. I had a similar thing with my daughter and she appreciated what I said. It is a sensitive subject and does need to be said.

    Reply
    • Janine says

      October 22, 2013 at 8:24 pm

      Parenting teens seems to be an endless loop of difficult conversations.

      Reply
  3. Lauren says

    October 22, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    I come at this from the other direction, as the mom of a teenage son. We recently had an interesting scuffle in the online community here in the US that stemmed from a mom writing a blog post in the form of a letter to the girls on her teen boys’ facebook and instagram feeds. While I agree that it’s disheartening to see young girls dressing provocatively, this woman (in my opinion) was slut-shaming straight up. She was basically saying, “If you post pictures of yourself in your jammies, my good Christian boys can’t be responsible for their response.” Uh. Yeah they can. It’s tricky isn’t it? We’re trying to raise our son to look at the girl beyond how she’s dressed. If she’s been drinking too much, we want him to see someone who is vulnerable and needs his help, not someone who suddenly becomes “available.”

    I find I say, “Don’t be stupid,” a lot. 😉

    Reply
    • Janine says

      October 22, 2013 at 11:17 pm

      I remember that piece and I agree it was slut-shaming and absolving boys of being responsible for their own actions. Yes all of this is tricky for mothers of girls and boys. You think it should get easier as they get older but it just gets more complex.

      Reply
  4. Madoqua1 says

    October 24, 2013 at 8:21 am

    As a parent of three “young twenties”, I think one should speak openly with ones’s teenagers of both sexes about these matters. This includes (at the right age) talking about your concerns about inadvertently sending the ‘wrong messages’ by discussing your concerns.

    Reply
    • Janine says

      October 24, 2013 at 9:50 am

      I think part of the problem with the debate that’s been going on here is that there is a societal message that seems to suggest that if you are drunk or dressed in skimpy outfit or whatever you are “asking for it” which is of course wrong and victims and commentators see the original article as sustaining that message. However, in two years time my overprotected child heads out into a world where the possibility of sexual assault from someone she knows and trusts is quite staggering. That means she has to have the ability to judge people, read situations, make instinctive calls on how “safe” her environment is, developing those skills only comes with experience, but in the meantime how capable she is at that will be as a result of the conversations she’s had with her parents and friends and the limited opportunities she has had to socialise with others. Of course none of this protects her from an individual determined to do harm – it’s just a hope that her instincts might limit her exposure to the “opportunistic” rapist.

      Reply
  5. nmsullivan0909 says

    November 11, 2013 at 8:03 am

    checking on you, janine! happy monday!

    Reply
  6. nmsullivan0909 says

    December 7, 2013 at 5:50 am

    hello janine – hope all is well. thinking of you and your family.

    Reply

Leave a Reply Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Janine Fitzpatrick is a personal blogger with an untidy house, imperfect children and no celebrity friends.

Follow Me

FACEBOOK

Looking For Something?

Categories

Archives

Weekend Notes

WATCHINGI went to see Fiona O'Loughlin last night. She's the comedian who survived alcoholism, a two week coma from not realising, in her drunken state, that the heater in the dive she was living in was leaking carbon monoxide.  Then went on to spend … [Read More...]

Weekend Notes

Watching We headed to the movies this weekend and saw the latest Spike Lee film, BlacKkKlansman. It's the story of the first black cop in the Colorado Springs police force, Ron Stallworth, who in the late 70's managed to infiltrate the Ku Klux … [Read More...]

Sleepless

So I've been awake since 3.00am. In that time I've signed the family up for an organizing app which can run a joint calendar, shared shopping and to-do lists and has downloaded a series of recipes that are supposed to make my "what's for dinner" … [Read More...]

Grey stairs.

The Widow Goes On A Date

The last time I went on a first date Bob Hawke was Prime Minister, Liam Hemsworth was being born, Madonna was singing Vogue on the radio, Macaulay Culkin was being left Home Alone and Kevin Costner was Dancing with Wolves. It was a long time ago … [Read More...]

Father with two daughters.

Another Father’s Day

Hi Simon, How's things going up there? Did you have a beer with your Dad for Father's Dad? We blatantly ignored the day here. Just pretended it wasn't happening. We still think about you every day. I didn't post anything on Facebook because it … [Read More...]

Daisy flowers

Hellooo Again

  Hi, I'm just here unwrapping the dust covers, brushing down the spiderwebs and sweeping up the left-over dreams of my tiny little space on the internet. I know I've been gone almost 12-months. I'm not even sure how that happened. A … [Read More...]

A messy scrapbooking desk

Milestone Moments

Hey Simon, Despite my best intentions to ignore the milestones they keep on happening, with or without you. We celebrated your Mum's 80th birthday back in August. A rushed trip of some 1,850 kilometres all up with just four days to do the 9 hour … [Read More...]

Weekend Notes

What have you been up to this weekend? Watching  We caught Home Again in the cinema. It's the latest Reese Witherspoon film.  It's a fun little comedy. Reese plays Alice a just-turned 40 divorcing mum of two. At her birthday drinks she … [Read More...]

Picture of a beach.

Weekend Notes

  As the weekend draws to a close here's a little of what caught my eye in the last 48 hours. Watching Saw Battle of the Sexes the new Emma Stone movie about the 1973 tennis match between Billie Jean King and Bobby Riggs. Oh what a time … [Read More...]

A Bag of chips, wine, chocolate, lemonade and magazine. A parody of a bug out bag for the apocalypse.

Could You Survive The Apocalypse?

South Koreans are buying "survival bags" and turning to YouTube for tips on making it through a nuclear blast. The New York Times is writing articles on How To Survive The Apocalypse and the doomsday preppers are starting to look like the smart ones. … [Read More...]

chocolate and wine

Home Alone: The Empty Nest

The empty nest looms in my near future. One more year before the youngest heads out into the world without my micromanaging her every move. I can feel the rotor blades on my helicopter starting to slow.   I heard a whisper of what may … [Read More...]

Weekend Notes

It's a long weekend here in Australia.  So it's been a lazy time. Perfect for some catch-up TV, movies and reading.   Watching I've been enjoying Doctor Doctor it was shot in my old hometown of Mudgee and gosh it's looking … [Read More...]

iVillage

Janine Fitzpatrick is a personal blogger with an untidy house, imperfect children and no celebrity friends. Read More…

Grey stairs.
Father with two daughters.

Copyright © 2025 ·Foodie Child Theme · Genesis Framework by StudioPress · WordPress · Log in